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Music Equity Debate

This debate/discussion occurred on 04 Feb 2023 at 14:32:09...

My reaction to a news item reporting that: "Music Industry making slow progress on diversity. Song writers and producers on the Billboard Hot 100 remains almost exclusively white and male."

Me When did we stop being primarily concerned with skill and talent and start being infatuated with "diversity" instead. It's so stupid.

Supporter Exactly. If you write a good song it won't matter what color you are, or if you have a dong or not. The fact that this "report" is even a thing is asinine. We are living in the damn twilight zone.

Opponent Skill and talent in music are just subjective, as any normal functioning human would know. This is more about societal bias than anything else. If more Africans could purchase music, more African music would be popular. It's more that than it is about "skill" or "talent".

Opponent It's also about population, the majority of people who buy black artist's records are white because the majority of the population is in fact, white lol.

Opponent Yes, but that's just America. If you look at Africa, 1 Billion people. Just wait till they start buying music.

Opponent Record companies base their ratings on revenue and popularity. The weekend is black and he had no trouble getting all the nominations at the Junos.

Supporter Well yes, American companies and American billboards focus on American sales, and sometimes North American as a whole.

Supporter You agree in the first sentence, then day some blub like "white males make popular music". Isn't that just contradictory?

Me Popularity is measured in music sales, I guess. Talent is more difficult. I should have based my original comment on popularity rather than talent. There is no doubt some correlation, but it's hard to justify in any objective way.

Opponent that is a racist thing to say. In your words blacks are too poor to buy music.

Me Oh racist is it? LOL. Is anything not racist? Anyway, smart ass comments aside. I'm not making judgements on why some music is more popular than others. This list is based on popularity, but why that popularity is the way it is, or whether this is a good way to measure value is another matter.

Supporter Because everyone gets a trophy these days.

Supporter Snowflake generation. They all have to win with little effort or they'll cry not fair.

Supporter I am sick of diversity and equity.

Supporter Since Equality of Outcome became the mainstay of the woke movement over Equality of Opportunity. The least common denominator then becomes the baseline and the virtue signalling flag of idiots.

And that's what it all comes down to: the woke mob want everyone to be the same, no matter what their strengths and weaknesses might be. The rest of us want to see reward allocated according to merit, and to ignore traits like gender and race. One other thing: have you ever heard the lefties demanding that more white people should be playing American basketball, which is predominantly black? No? Didn't think so.